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MILITARY JEEPS

Putting on the Duck with your own military Jeep what could be more fun that that!

The jeep was invented in WW2 when over 600,000 of them were manufactured by the Ford Motor Company and Willys-Overland. Actual production cost was brought down to $300 per unit thanks to Henry Ford's extremely efficient manufacturing techniques. Today the same vehicles are selling for several thousand dollars and have proved to be pretty good investments! Copies of the basic Jeep idea were manufactured in many other countries but the basic idea was a small tough vehicle that could operate in all terrain and be easily transportable. It was an instant hit with the troops who preferred to ride rather than walk and variants of the basic design ideas remain to this day. Civilian versions of the jeep are very popular SUVs. For more general information  check out this link to wikipedia on jeeps.

If you wish to reconnect with the best times you had in your life or add a little excitement to the commute or even get noticed in a large corporation simply buy a jeep. You will have fun! 

 

Here are some Jeeps and equipment available at auction now:

 

 

HUMVEE

This is quite an interesting vehicle the name being derived from High Maneuverability Multi Wheeled Vehicle it made its appearance in the 1980's as a replacement for the jeep. A very distinctive and powerful "macho looking" vehicle it was unfortunately being used in tactical situations that it was never designed for specifically small arms and rocket propelled grenade and land mine or IED attacks in an urban warfare setting and losses have been high. The original design incorporated fiberglass and aluminum body panels that kept down the weight but offered even less protection to the troops than say a GMC Sierra or Ford 150 built with some steel. Of the 700+ marines lost in Iraq over 2/3 died in Humvees. The Humvee is a good vehicle but it was designed for other conditions.

There are approximately 10,000+ Humvees serving in Iraq now. 3800 pound amour kits have been added to the 6000 pound humvees to help with force protection. There are many examples of soldiers going into combat with equipment that quickly proves non suitable for the task and the humvee appears to be an example. Unfortunately this is not something that can be planed for until after the event as military history has shown us. Innovative US troops even tried adding "Hillbilly Armor" to their HUMVEE's in the form of bolted on scrap pieces of metal to give them some protection from bullets. The bad dudes use the AK-47 which has a very powerful 7.62 cal bullet which can slice through an unprotected Humvee with no difficulty. RPGs and IED's have completely destroyed Humvees with their crews. The troops would have had the same problem with the jeep vehicle that the Humvee replaced as neither was designed for an urban warfare environment.  Even the million dollar mine protected vehicles are not immune as the bad dudes simply make the bombs bigger. It seems a bit ironic that the bad dudes are using bigger bullets than our troops despite the fact our weapons are newer and "more modern". The entire problem seems to relate to the fact that urban and guerilla warfare just wasn't on the military planers radar and our troops were equipped for a more conventional war. 

 In situations where the vehicle was used as designed loses were very  low. Attempts were made to increase the armor but these added significant weight to the vehicle raising its center of gravity and placing more stress on its suspension and power train. The cost per armored Humvee is about $150,000 but the mine resistant replacement vehicles are coming in at over a million per unit. Manufactured by AM General the HUMVEE has over 17 variants and is now being replaced with newer vehicles better suited to the threats our troops face so one can look forward to seeing more surplus vehicles available in the future. The HUMVEE also appeared in civilian use as the HUMMER a GM brand that now to the high gas prices is in jeopardy. In any event its an exciting vehicle to drive and even view and is one of the classics of military transportation.

In summary we will have many arm chair generals commenting on humvees for many decades to come. But when I see one I want to drive it! It is an extremely cool and exciting vehicle and having been in them before I know how much fun you can have. I am not saying I want to go down an IED filled street with one. I would pick something different for that! (probably a helicopter!) But having a humvee parked in my driveway would be really a lot of fun! Having the biggest most powerful vehicle on the block is fun. And fun is what life is all about!

 

 

 

 

 

ILTIS "JEEP" BUILT BY BOMBARDIER CANADA

Canada's replacement for the jeep. A design by Volkswagen from the mid 1970's.Looks a little like the VW Thing marketed for a short while.  Design and tooling bought by Bombardier Canada a highly respected Canadian Manufacturer specializing in recreational gear, trains and planes and by the mid 1980s they had delivered approximately 5000 units with 2000 going to the Canadian Forces. Basically offered zero protection for troops and Canada stopped using them after three troops were killed in combat action in Afghanistan. Poor reputation with the troops. Very flimsy construction for a vehicle used in a war zone and complex design which considering its German design is understandable. They were purchased for a window of 15 years taking the forces up to the year 2000. 170 where used in Afghanistan with Canadian Forces. The Iltus was never designed for these threats. However for civilian use, when people are not shooting at you -the situation is different. Here is a listing from Canadian auctions on Iltis related gear available now! First sales to the public are through the Crown Assets Disposal Sales in Canada.

 

 

ARMY SURPLUS AUCTIONS

If I told you the Govt. actually sold a surplus F14 you wouldn't' believe me right? They did!

Here are examples of secondary surplus sales. Usually the sellers will have obtained the items from Primary sources -government departments tasked with selling off surplus gear. Although the best prices are found at the primary sources you also need to be prepared to buy in bulk and take a risk on the content and condition of the material. As an example in an effort to prevent the items from re-entering the government system I have seen cases where perfectly fine clothing items with little or no wear have been defaced with markers or paint  or slashed with box cutters and sold as "textile scrap". It can be quite frustrating to learn that you have just purchased one ton of cleaning rags when you though you were buying several thousand shirts or jackets for resale.

So one advantage of buying in the secondary market is that you know what you are buying and you can purchase in smaller quantities or where sizing is involved in the correct size range too. I once purchased a large lot of several hundred pairs of white tropical pants that were surplused off by the navy because when they got wet they became semi transparent. And they were polyester so they kept an excellent crease but in tropical conditions they didn't breath like cotton. Have you ever considered how difficult it is to sell 800 pairs of white pants! I could tell you stories. But it was a lot of fun and hundreds of buyers got white pants at a fraction of the cost the government paid for them. 

So when buying in the secondary market from an individual who has purchased a larger lot from a government source don't worry about getting ripped off on the price. Let them make a fair profit on the transaction because they are offering you real value - an item in usually good condition at the size and volume you require. They may have had to purchase a thousand of them and store them for two years and search through them to find your size and that all costs money. I say this because I occasionally ran across individuals who were very worried that they were paying more for an item than I did and I thought that was a bit silly. In the case of the white pants I sold them for a dollar in new condition for a product that was sold in stores for $30 and still had the odd character who accused me of making an unfair profit on them! My cost was about a nickel a pair so I guess they were right. But they forgot to include my transport and warehouse costs and the other costs of sales. 

So for those that may have never done this sort of thing that is a quick look into the life of an army surplus dealer. Everyone loved the values and its a happy business as you are dealing with quality items at a good price and customers who appreciate the values. Often the owners like me are ex military and many of the customers have served too so if you get the chance to visit a bricks and mortar surplus store you will enjoy it!

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LAND ROVERS

Land rovers have a cult following as one of the worlds oldest and best recognized off road vehicles. When you stand beside one especially one of the older models you feel like you are going on safari to Africa or for a journey into the jungle. Everyone should own one once!

 

Here we have auction listings from the UK for items available now!

 

VIETNAM WAR

The Vietnam war lasted 10,000 days  from 1965 to 1973 and to this day raises mixed opinions and emotions about its outcome and value. From a military perspective troops on both sides and civilians paid the ultimate price. Over 58,000 American troops were killed, hundreds of thousands injured many with life changing injuries and approx 6 million civilian and enemy casualties occurred.

Although the American military technically won every major battle and "won" the war the eventual result was a form of retreat and withdrawal in 1973 and so the outcome was not considered a victory as the enemy took over South Vietnam in 1975. I can't see the enemy claiming it was a "victory" either as the price they paid was simply too high.  For many years Vietnam war vets were considered in a negative light by many Americans and only comparatively recently has a better and I think a more fair understanding of their sacrifice been appreciated by the public. Having served in the Canadian Navy during the Vietnam War period I came into contact with American troops and Naval Units who had served in the conflict and in fact was offered a commission in the USN by a Navy Recruiter during a visit to a US port. I have nothing but respect for the Vietnam Vets. You could spend a lifetime researching and studying the Vietnam war and politics but that aside its the people who served who know best what it was and the prices paid to ensure our freedom. 

Vietnam era items have a growing collectability factor and here are several items on auction and available now! In fact there are over 2 dozen pages.

 

HIGH END VIETNAM COLLECTABLES

There are countless collectables from Vietnam on the market so we decided to raise the bar and provide you with a listing of items at auction starting at $200 and up. This way you have immediate access to some of the higher end Vietnam era collectables most of them with good potential for increasing collectable and investment value. Vets are now entering their retirement years and in just a few decades they will have all passed on. Some feel estates will flood the market and others point out that they don't care because they won't be around anyway. Who knows? The grandchildren will find out. Like anything you collect quality items will hold their own or increase in value over time. 

 

HIGH END IRAQ WAR COLLECTABLES

Here we have listings of Iraq war collectables at auction starting at $200 so they represent the higher end of the market. They will change as new items are listed.

 

VALUE

Here are some hints and advice related to value and price when collecting military or any items. You may already know most of them if you are a seasoned collector but for the new person lets cover a few points.  First of all "value" is a very subjective term that can be expressed from several points of view so its important to know this when discussing an items value. Some items are one of a kind and from that perspective are "priceless" Ultimately, the value of an item is what a buyer is prepared to purchase it for. An Accountant will tell you that the value of an item is what you paid for it. Another person will say -"but you got it at way under the market price", There is the concept of historical or archival value. There is surplus value. There is the value of the raw material an item is made from. Provenance is a concept where the source of the article is documented and this adds to the value of the item. For example it could be a newspaper clipping, an old picture, a statement from the owner about a family connection or whatever.

Many collectors have unreasonably high expectations of the value of their items based in part on watching too many episodes of your countries version of Antiques Road Show where they showcase examples of garage sales treasures bought for pennies that turn out to the joy and secret glee of their new owners to be antiques worth several thousand dollars. That sometimes happens but more often that not the main value in a collectable is the joy or use you obtain from it. 

Unfortunately, for the collector when an item begins to climb in price there are people who will seek to meet this demand in the market by simply manufacturing more product. This occurred with Nazi medals and other items from WW2. Some people will lie and cheat to obtain a benefit and you must use due diligence when making any purchase and that includes military collectables. Here we offer listings from trusted suppliers in forms where the buyer has good levels of protection and recourse if something bad happens but there is still a level of risk that items will be incorrectly described or that errors and omissions will occur. 

In the case of military collectables often there is a family value where younger members of a family wish to have artifacts of the time their fathers or grandparents served in the military. One of our websites includes this type of content and you can check out NorthTreasure.com for some good examples. I have a small pair of brass binoculars from WW1 with very good optics and every time I use them I enjoy the idea that nearly a century ago some British Army officer may have been using them on the front in Europe. Its a neat feeling that you don't get from an injection molded plastic product from China. There is a value there. I have no intention of selling them.

An interesting concept with collectables is something called the trading value. Often a person will encounter a lot of items where they already have them in their collection or where the items are not up to the required quality one would wish. Sometimes the prices are excellent too. What some people do is buy them for resale and trading purposes -they have no intention of incorporating them in their collections and this technique can work quite well especially if storage space is not an issue.

An important concept is that military and other collectables are in fact assets and do have a certain market value. A market value is determined when the items are offered to a variety of individuals looking for that item and prices are established based on what they have been willing to pay. You also sometimes hear the phrase "fire sale prices" and this is when a merchant or individual usually encounters a cash flow problem so sells off their assets at much less than fair market value just to get the sales and raise some cash. The don't usually make a profit on the items they are merely raising some cash and often need to sell for less than their acquisition costs.

Estate sales are often a good source of military items for two reasons -first the material may have never been on the market before and secondly because those offering the items for sale are often more interested in making a quick buck garage sale style than actually doing the work and research  to obtain the fair market value for the items. You see this a lot with tools at estate garage sales  where the poor unsuspecting widow is just happy to get rid of her spouses heavy dirty or dusty tools so that she will have a "clean garage" again. Dealers and "pickers" will often obtain their stock this way. The fact that it took her spouse thousands of dollars and decades to fill the garage with expensive tools kind of escapes her. Dealers dream about situations like this and often leave with truckloads of product for pennies on the dollar. 

If you are considering collecting as a business I can recommend an excellent book that we published on business called YOUR VERY FIRST BILLION. In 420 pages it gives you excellent insight into how everything works and most of it never appears in traditional books.

A final thought on collecting - you can't take it with you so enjoy the items while you can. If you collect things that you can actually use or display its a lot more fun! 

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